Wednesday, March 7, 2012

GEORGIA'S BIG WIN FOR NEWT AND COORDINATING ON THIS BLOG FOR NEWT

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Congratulations to our man Newt for scoring his home state of Georgia by a bigger-than-expected margin. That was a real blow-out. You would never know, however, because Rick Santorum is the media darling and for good reason:


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/next-santorum-gingrich-barnstorm-south-164119178.html

It turns out that liberals are switching party affiliations and voting in our GOP primaries to put the worst possible candidate - Santorum - up against Obama. Google "Operation Hilarity" to learn about the truth of it; Dick morris, CNN and others have reported this movement so it's real, not a joke, and they are ruining our primary process by trying to control it and they have boots on the ground in the tens of thousands - it matters  (even their name for the operation simply drips of liberal smugness: "Operation Hilarity". Makes your blood boil, doesn't it?).

 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/15/1065052/-Announcing-Operation-Hilarity-Let-s-keep-the-GOP-clown-show-going-

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/is-operation-hilarity-working/2012/02/28/gIQAbnh3gR_blog.html

 http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/dont-let-obama-dictate-our-candidate/

WE CAN DO SOMETHING - and make your one voice reach tens of thousands in seconds.

 We need to get more active than simple arguing with trolls on Facebook. We need to be Newt's advertising machine. Take it from a media specialist in NYC who knows advertising; we can do it.

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The lack of response signals to me that

1. I should not leave hints up for other side to guess the strategy, and

2. My effectiveness as an online champion for Newt is probably coming to a close. I expected a few friends from FB to join together here, at least initially, but that is not proving to be the case. 

Know this: "WORKING" for Newt is not spinning your wheels arguing with trolls on Facebook, allowing yourself to get off-topic on those boards; the people with whom you are arguing are being paid by ACRON and the like to keep you there arguing and doing nothing productive. The productive people, like myself and others,stay on-topic, to the point and continually post devastating evidence against the opposition sooner or later get thrown off. I know two others for sure. 

That is not to say people should abandon Facebook - simply stop wasting your time debating minutia with trolls - you cannot win on the territory that have terraformed for their own advantage: they're organized - you have noticed, I'm sure, that the moment you start to win an argument 5 other people show up out of nowhere to talk you down. That isn't a coincidence.  While you sit down after dinner and  chat at your leisure feeling terribly, terribly helpful and important - and strategically isolated -  they are a tight, strategically organized and well-oiled  machine. 

The left does what it does because it can not argue the merits, so those people organize and cheat. We sit as uncoordinated individuals and declare the truth. Result? We're getting killed. 

If you don't want the liberals to win, you better get organized and I do not mean manning phone banks and attending fundraiser pancake breakfasts. Our opposition plays fast, dirty and they are as tight as a spring clock. We need to be the same way and be that way fast. If you want to win this, take a little time and trouble to speak up - and sign up - to this board because I don't know of any other that takes this attitude and approach. If you know of another that does, stop wasting time arguing with paid operatives about right and wrong on Facebook and get involved. . This is about getting things done and influencing people on a large scale with strategic tricks that work. And please don't tell me "people are doing more behind the scenes than you know." Two people who told me that in that last three years turned out to be people working for the opposition attempting to lull people us into a false sense of security. The opposition may be crazy, but they are anything but stupid. 

The reality is - and it is a reality - that we are disorganized and essentially naked to attack. We need to start playing like they do. We need to get organized and meet and get things done as a well-oiled machine. If need be, we need to play dirty. If I don't hear from some serious people in the next week I am closing this blog down and will simply pray that one of the people who could have done something and did not had a better solution than sitting for endless hours on Facebook chatting with people who are being paid to give us busy work while their real operations are taking us apart from the inside out. 

I can organize an evening of proven strategic activity that is certain to work. But if you are interested, you need to say so. Otherwise I will simply assume that I being met with the same response some of us got in 2008 - all talk and no learning of new habits that make a difference by passionate conservatives who are dead certain they are achivibg real results by arguing with people being paid to absorb your time and energy and will shut this board down and pray for a miracle, because we are losing right now against the left, and that's a fact. 

Am I coming across like a unnecessarily tough hard-ass? Yes. But I know of no other way to express this. The situation is what it is and we're running out of time quickly.

The choice is yours. Rush and Hannity will not save you - Obama's election and current poll numbers show they have failed. Arguing with trolls will only buy their co-workers the time they need to succeed. You need to play like the opposition. I can help but can do no more without your cooperation and involvement. It's up to you. But you need to act fast.

` Proe

158 comments:

  1. semi-under-the-radar (sing that to "somewhere over the rainbow").

    roflol...very good,that works well. :)

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  2. :) I will delete all posts that have TMI on them after reading. Nancy sent you a PM on FB.

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  3. No p/m from a Nancy to me??

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  4. You won't get one from Nancy, either. Now Nancy was deleted from Facebook. Proe Graphique, capin, Nancy, just go after Santorum, the liberal's choice to lose agaionst obama, and you get thrown off. It's official, Facebook is corrupt. There is no other explanation. seriously. If anyone has one, I'd love to hear it. In the meantime, I have plenty of friends..... ;)

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  5. Nancy was deleted too? That's horrible that that is happening. Which Nancy, I know more than one.

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  6. "Nancy Clarity" who just got her voice and started fighting the Santorum bots was deleted. The radicals know Obama cannot win on the merits of his presidency, so they are highjacking the right wing primaries. That is what is literally happening. Facebook is either part of it, or the radicals have found a way to game the site.

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  7. Posts with certain names have been deleted as requested.

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  8. THE MAIN POST OF THIS THREAD HAS BEEN EDITED. I think it's important. PLEASE READ.

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  9. No,"the lack of response s because I have tried to reach you in other ways, so it is not a lack of response from me. I wish you would put the instruction back please?

    I just didn't want peoples names I had up there on an open blog until they are in and ok with it themselves, does that make sense? I think we will bring in the girls first anyway.

    I have already talked to my first most trusted friend and she is in, we are selecting the first 3 or 4 from the best of friends to start with that will really be dedicatd and then bring in more. I will have it together today, I sent you an e-mail at obfake, I do not have a response yet that and would help me get it started easier.

    I do not get notified when new post or comments are here, is there a way for me to get a faster notication from this board if I am not on the board at the time, can't even get notifidied while I am out or away. Maybe starting the 'private room' for our new works first would work also, open threads are well....open for all to view discusions right? k.

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  10. Proe, please put the instructions back up so I CAN go grab the girls and start the private room so we can all jump in there. Are your 'friends', the couple of girls I know, coming too or should I bring them? k.

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  11. I can go grab people but I want the right ones so put the instructions back up. I just saw the post yesterday afternoon, I didn't realize we were on a less than 24 hour timeframe. Are we suppose to start tomorrow night? Then I need the instructions back and will watch this board until it is so I don't miss it. check obfake@ too please...

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  12. Proe, please get our instructions back up. our team is here and or coming now. BTW...I just learned one of your vid copies (that you took down) was by WOF and is on there site. Did they not ask permission? That is a compliment I think and is for Newt, is there a way to work that out to benefit all? K.

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  13. Thanks S.G. friend, I am glad you are 'in too' :) k.

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  14. bbs..k. please repost instructions so I can alert friends :)

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  15. Okay, I have a lot of posts here all under one name: anonymous, all asking me to re-port the instructions. That won't fly. I have no idea who is who. You folks can sign up to this blog, give yourselves names so I know who is who - this is conversational insanity right now - and then we can confirm who you are via e-mail or a coded posting on FB (this latter might be better). I am not just posting the instructions willy nilly. You have to either trust me on this it won't work, obviously. If we advertise the instructions, the opposition they will simply counter-attack, and if we are reaching tens of thousands in just an hour or two - and we will, you have to believe me on that - then the kind of trolls I have seen on FB will not stand for that. Then we're back to arguing with trolls endlessly. I want us to control the conversation and the public influence completely. There is no sense of competition for them, they believe only in total domination. Okay, then, so be it. This is my strategy, and I insist that we be in total domination in this effort. That means controlling it beyond their sight.

    Please sign up. Anyone can simply post and put initials at the bottom, and trust me - I have been thrown off Facebook and threatened - At the risk of being immodest, 20 years plus in media successfully has made me an effective player in this game. the chances are they are watching. Certainly the number of views this site gets outnumbers the number of posts people are posting by a factor of hundreds.

    Sign up, use a fake e-mail if you want, anything. That way I know who is who and we will confirm with a coded post by each of you on FB. Sound complicated? It isn't. It just means taking a few extra minutes to do something you have never done before. Once we have several people signed aboard and confirmed, I will start a closed board where all the info will be shared and coordinated. But we have to act fast. It's up to you. Decide.

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    1. Proe, I'll sign up. I remember you from FB, btw. And I had a talk with one of our mutual friends a few days ago....

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  16. I just saw this, will get them on it now..we don't know how this works. :) hold on for me brb
    ~ k.

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  18. "Anonymous" - you can be the first second one to actually subscribe to this board and give yourself a name so I'm not reading an endless list of "anonymous". I will be offline for awhile. perhaps I'm being bitter about being beaten by the libs on FB, but I have a sense of deja vu 2008. i tried to rally people then. No one did anything. They're lazy. WE are lazy. All anyone wants to do is sit on their ass and tell the TRUTH and DEMAND this and that and while they are there acting like the rock of Gibraltar the opposition ios organized a hundred different ways, scrambling on the ground and getting the job done. that is the real reason, IMO, that Obama got elected. if we did half the work they did the way they do it Obama would not have gotten within 100 miles of the White House. It's our battle, and we cannot blame the media or Hannity or anyone else. Obama got elected because we failed. period. there is no other reality to it. And if we don;t get our sit together and start playing the game the way they do, we are going to fail again. It isn;t complicated.

    Alas, by hopes that you will be able to pry people away from comfortable old habits in which failure is salved with patriotic blather, are not soaring. But it will be a good day if you do. However, people need to sign up with specific names and then post coded messages identifying each one on FB. Anyone who des not code does not get into the private board where we organize and get this strategy done. It's as simple as that. they froze me out of Facebook for purely political reasons - I broke no rules. I am freezing them out of this. If that means it doesn't happen, so be it, but blame only yourselves if Obama wins re-election, as we should blame ourselves for his election in the first place. His election was our collective failure. if we play the game the way we did it the last time - and we seem to be doing exactly that - we will fail again. rely on it.

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  19. I'm in Proe. You have my email. Amy

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  20. Okay, with what appears to be a total of 6 people all together, including saska, we can start organizing this thing. I need to double-check who is who. I have a feeling the people here may not all want to ID themselves on FB, so all i can say is we'll try this, see to what extent it works and wing it from there. I need to know people are whom they say they are, because all it takes is one liberal troll and we're shot to hell on this. What I suggest is this: i will post an individual message to each person who has responded, and take the post down when the ID has been confirmed. A couple of people here are likely to not want to do this, and we'll have to figure out something else for them.

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  21. *Karna* go to newt's wall with 280,000-plus likes and go to the otherwise dead upper "Vermont" wall post and copy and paste: I AM FOR NEWT, THE DEBATE KING 100%! Once I see your other pro-Newt posts that will confirm for me that you are not the opposition. (anyone with no prior history in supporting Newt simply can not be in on this - we need proven and reliable players). let me know when that's done, I will check it and then delete this and we take the next step.

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  22. Saska, I know you. You are good to go.

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  23. If Stephen is reading this, *Karna* go to newt's wall with 280,000-plus likes and go to the otherwise dead upper "Vermont" wall post and copy and paste: NEWT IS THE BEST! Once I see your other pro-Newt posts that will confirm for me that you are not the opposition. (anyone with no prior history in supporting Newt simply can not be in on this - we need proven and reliable players). let me know when that's done, I will check it and then delete this and we take the next step.

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  24. The Vermont thread was chosen because it;s otherwise dead.

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  25. Tee, was that the music someone linked when I posted the Ron Paul as Dr Smith photoshop? :)

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  26. Proe, I just posted under 2 of the there Vermont pics...will that be enough? Issue with the 3rd one accepting the post..2 out of 3...:)

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  27. Karna, I saw a post, but what did yours say, because it isn't the same thing I asked you to post; there is a reason things have to work the way they do. So far one person posted.... probably the wrong message. If this is the best we can do we're going to get killed in November. I mean, you do seriously know that, right? Buck up, try again. All I'm asking you to do is engage the simplest of processes. i had to think the whole strategy out, test it and get the bugs out of it - a year ago. I know some people are probably projecting; they want to be leaders so they are assuming i feel as they do and this is some ego trip for me and therefore regard it as a waste of their time. i understand that from a stranger's POV. I'm not so sure I understand it from anyone who knows me. Trust me, I'd be on a vacation somewhere taking in the sun if I did not feel this was something that could be done. I've been 'leading" people my entire career. Right now I could do without it; but we're getting killed by the left. This is something that works. But if I don't get better responses and more of them within the week I am going to give this up. We in the aggregate cannot possibly be this pathetic. When you get right down to it, unless you think arguing with trolls all day long on FB is the most efficient use of your time by any possible imagining, then you have to admit I'm not asking you to do a lot for your country - at least to give it a serious shot, because I can guarantee you that your voice will reach many thousands and possibly tens of thousands in just an hour or two of activity. That is more than you will manage by any other activity unless you host a commercial broadcast radio or TV show. Once again, it's up to you. But you need to confirm that you are who you say you are on FB, because e-mails and reassurances mean nothing here - anyone can represent themselves as anyone, and hundreds of people have been here in the last 24 hours and only a few have posted. there is no way I am opening this strategy up to the liberals. it just won't happen. I rather we never did it, because they will use it whether we do or not. rely on it. It works.

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  28. Hope, I need to see a confirmation. If you are nervous about that for some reason, then you are probably not right for this activity. Even behind an alias, it requires a little moxy until you fall into place with it. Once you do, though, you'll have a blast.

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    1. sorry, not nervous - just a bad-busy couple days. I had to set up for 10 county assemblies and speakers to get delegates for NG and we are being hassled by the Occupy folks. I will get going on this when the assemblies are done Saturday.

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    2. Never mind I see my instructions, will do.

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    3. Good to see you Hope, thanks

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  29. Thank you to "Flip Flopper" on Facebook for helping to spread the Newt vs Obama Debate video by posting the link. Anything that fires the message like an arrow is a more efficient way to convince the world than arguing with liberal trolls on message boards. Thank you.

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  30. Proe, thank you for the instruction, the tech difficulties on Newts wall seemed to be a f/b glitch; check again and let me know if you need anything else there.

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  31. I will take care of that this weekend Proe

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  32. Maybe I'm crazy but today I only saw one person today on the Newt boards having confirmed their Facebook ID (I don't need to know who you really are - I really don't care, no offense! - I just want to make sure everyone who goes into this fun escapade is indeed an die-hard Newt supporter - and not someone from the other side.

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  33. Just let us know what the next orders are so we know how to proceed please. I may have one more today, so I want to make sure she does everything correctly so she can help

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  34. We need people to ID themselves by posting their requested messages on facebook, but I think this request is making most people feel weird, so this effort may simply fail due to the fear factor. many a country has fallen for exactly that reason, but I cannot make people here prove they are who they say they are in any other way and no way otherwise for me to differentiate the liberal trolls from the newt people. The larger strategy has a current and fleeting window of opportunity occurring that will not last. It will be demoralizing to lose a particularly good time for it because people were nervous, disinterested or were indignant because they assumed I was doing all this for some personal 'control" gratification (I have plenty of control in life - what i need, quite frankly, is a long and relaxing vacation, but that's a different story).

    I don't know what else to say. I'd rather let the strategy go entirely unused than give the left another tool to use, and we cannot do it without more people, and cannot bring more people on board unless we know they are at least the Facebook identities who have been newt supporters in the past.. So that's that. If people have chosen not to participate then I suppose we can just spread the Newt video around and shrug and hope newt doesn't lose. that's about it. Arguing with trolls on FB is a strategy that ran its course long ago. We have to move in additional directions or IMO we're going to lose this. So people can do what they want to do. I know I did my part. It is what it is.

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  35. Amy, please go to any of the Vermont threads on newt's FB wall and post the following: NEWT IS MY CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT. That way I know who you are on FB for sure (doesn't matter if it's anyone's real name or not, just so I know that whoever is here under one name corresponds to someone I know is a Newt supporter on FB). I'm not giving up yet, Amy, but with people scattered, and only a few at all posting here and there, the coordination is starting to seem as though it may be nearly impossible. Maybe I should give up. Doubtless "Proe graphique" has now become a laughing stock among many of our own side - the Linda Lee Valentines of the world. I'm getting sick of this whole thing. if people cannot work together with me leading the charge, then someone else can lead the 'thinking out of the box charge", as long as we're not all scattered and the only thing we do otherwise is sit on Facebook and pontificate mightily to the trolls who love us for that and doing what we did in 2008, because while we're screwing off or following old, established habits, they're working like busy beavers and having a huge impact on the larger society that we are not. We could, too, if people would just put a little organizational effort outside the box. But we have to do more because we otherwise did all this in 2008- pontificated, argued on facebook, screamed the 'Constitution" until we were blue in the face and Obama laughed all the way into the White House. If people have decided that my leadership carries with it some larger unpleasantness, then they can lead, instead, and I'll follow. But someone had better do something, because the reality is we're going to get killed if we don't start being activists outside the box, and do it fast.

    With respect, Amy, I really don't know who you are. try this seeming transgendered alter-ego e-mail that is otherwise empty: nancyclarity@yahoo.com.

    Amy, I hope you are also copying and pasting the newt vs obama video youtube address as requested in the current newest post of this blog. Don't assume that just because everyone you know has seen it, that tens of thousands of others on Newt's wall page have seen it also. The chances are they have not, and if nothing else it has proven to be a great morale booster, and we need that, because with the best candidate, the only thing holding us back is more effort and enthusiasm. By all that is right, Newt should have won the nomination ages ago - no one comes close to his accomplishment. The fact he has not is their success and our failure. Our failure. Not the media or anyone else. Our failure. Just like Obama winning in 2008 was our failure. Clearly, we need to do more, and do it fast.

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  36. Amy, regarding the Newt VS Obama video 'preaching to the choir" when posted on Newt's wall, yes, it does indeed, and that is good for two reasons:

    1. It takes the sour mainstream spin about Newt out of people's minds who have not seen it and

    2. .... the more it gets out there, the more it will be shared. if only one in 100 is not in the choir and shares it to others not in the choir, that would mean that 70 people would share out of 7,000. If one person out of the 70 happens to have 2,000 people signed up as friends who are not in the choir who wind up with a link on their wall and one out of one hundred of those shares shares it..... you get the idea. Every other day I get a new, enthusiastic comment out of several hundred views (it's at over 7,000 views after a little over a week)so people are still very much discovering it. When someone says "I would pay to watch newt debate Obama" - which between youtube and Facebook has happened often - we are striking a resonant cord and reminding people why they liked newt a month ago, and re-activating their enthusiasm.

    Yes, we could post outside of Newt's own wall, but nowhere will it move faster than there. We still have A LOT of people - tens of thousands at least - who have missed it because the links vanish into the thread before they happen to log on. The secret of successful advertising is repetition - not only so the same people see it repeatedly, but more that so that others who have not see it, do see it. A commercial on TV does not play only once, but all the time. How many times do you think this commercial should play each day on Newt's wall? Let your answer to that question be your direction: that's how many times a day you should post it.

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  37. Tara, if you go to newt's wall and do not see any Vermont post by newt, click on the icon for newt in the upper left and that we re-load the front page. if you scroll slightly you should see it.

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  38. Karna (Kathy A) would you please explain to the others what I am asking for? I don't seem to be able to communicate it, unless this is a joke. Others, please ask Karna here or Kathy A on Facebook what i am asking for. I will be off this board most of today.

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  39. Karna and I discussed this. I scrolled thru 100's of pages on Newt's wall. There is no "Vermont" post.

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  40. Proe, thank you for mentioning me. :) However, please reconsider not having me be a part of your "activity initially" as I know why "we can't get better organized." I can help, really. This is not an opinion, this is fact. 2+2=4. :)

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    2. I agree that 2+2=4. This is not 2+2, however. I didn't really mention you, and if this is the person who refuses to tell me in writing what that person has concluded I am doing wrong, as they did tell me publicly that they thought I was doing something wrong, yet at the same time posts their own personal telephone number on an open message board, then that is not 2=2. That's just bad business. I'm sorry, but this needs to be a core of responsible, determined, common-sense people, if it can be made to work with this group at all as it has with others in the past and I have never heard of anyone posting a personal telephone number on an open comment section in my life. This is going to have to go on without you, and I take everyone at their word that you won't be included through them or anyone else not sanctioned for it by me. No offense, I do not dislike you, but your work for Newt would likely be better done in other venues. This isn't for you.

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    3. Karna, I would love to have been a fly on the wall and have seen whatever it was you deleted.

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    4. I reposted under you, it was under the wrong comment that is all exactly

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    5. *I posted under wrong comment thread I meant* I had intended to post under youand now have

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  41. Please check out the newest post on this blog. With his Kansas win, it's clear that we need to be more aggressive against Santorum using his own insane words against him while positively promoting Newt as the only one who can beat Obama.

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  43. howdy kids! ;) still don't know which "profile" to choose in order to make the proper pic show up. any suggestions?

    Stephen E. Smith

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    1. Hiya, Stephen, I dunno, whatever you do is fine. I forget how I set mine up. :)

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    2. Hi Stephen, I can help you with that but go to your p/m chat, I hear some people use it alot and some ...not so much. *save it* :) lol

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    3. Stephen, sent you the instructions to upload the pic, let me know if that works.

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  44. I'll check the FB posts tomorrow - after I set up yet ANOTHER account.

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  45. IT MIGHT BE GOOD WHILE WE'RE GETTING INITIALLY ORGANIZED TO KNOW WHAT NIGHTS OF THE WEEK PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE AND WHEN, because for the planned/proven strategy to work, we all need to do it together (more on the specifics once I get the private board for members only set-up)

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    1. I can ask the others but what time works are best for you? Early mornings or late evenings are better for me.

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    2. Karna, I am asking others to participate in something I designed, and while it benefits us all equally if our only concern is the cause of net's candidacy, as for my time, I will accommodate the group. I think you will find that your evenings might work better for the others if you were able to come on earlier on those nights (whatever nights those turn out to be).

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    3. Hey Proe, VA here. Awaiting instrux. Resurrected as Jay Brown.

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    4. Welcome VA Jay!:)

      Proe, Amy and Hope posted the original statement on VA state a couple days ago because of the f/b glitch. I hope you can work with that; let me know if not.

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    5. Proe, I have some of the groups available time preferences, so far weekend evenings seem to work; Awaiting further instructions.

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  46. lol, Romney got his Grits handed to him!! im so happy, i know its just a matter of time until Saint Torum is exposed as the wacko sexual devient he so obviously is. just waiting for the Sandusky/second mile expose' to be released. im sure the Socialists are saving it as an ace in the hole in case he is nominated.

    Stephen E. Smith

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    1. Exactly Stephen and Spot ON! Saint Torum will be exposed because it's 'not nice' to 'be such a fake' to the 'true conservatives' just to get their vote. Saint Torum is NO saint! Hasn't that game been played before? Oh yea, they fell for Obamas game last time too...get it people?

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  47. Proe, my hours are flexable as are the others Sunday primetime should work fine (6-10pm cst?)I will let them know about the youtube accts and meet back here. thx

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  48. I can probably make most Sunday Nights. I have a call at 9pm ET, but it can be skipped. Enjoy watching Newt's story:

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBC0C346BDF988C06&feature=view_all

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  49. I do think its coffee time now so here's a really good video to watch, check it out :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcqjkAB9-S4
    (hyperlink?)

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  50. Good morning, Here's a video everyone might enjoy! :) http://youtu.be/NWfhcWjvVdQ

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  51. I especially love this one Tee :)

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  52. i can't do Sat or Sun this week, but I don't want to hold up anything

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  53. Took me awhile .... http://youtu.be/isP6nxWaDEw

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  54. Bringing over another serious one that will in a few that gets it...

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    1. Thanbk you. Kimberly Kelly Trimble should want in on this. What about Deb B?

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  55. I'm all in...what do I need to do next Karna?

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  56. Thank you J.O. my friend, you do get it. :) Proe, J.O. will need instruction please...

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  57. Kara, get Jamey to post a comment on a slow newt-started thread on on newt's wall, "Newt is my choice for 2012!" Tell him the drill, please. Let me know when it's up.

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  58. Proe, will do as soon as he is back on-line, either tonight or in the a.m.

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  59. Proe, I did ask Deb B last week and she didn't think she could, I can check again. I 'finally' found KKT last night :) however, I am in f/b time-out for 2 more of 14 days(RS supporter thanks for that)I e-mailed a mutual friend of KKT's ask that she see if KKT would 'friend' me, so far n/a. Will keep trying...

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    1. I didn't know you were on a time-out. Did you say something wrong, or have the santorum/liberals simply managed to silenced all strong anti-santorum voices through official Facebook channels? If so, then we should abandon any hope for Newt and go for the birther issue exclusively, because if they have that much control, we'll never beat them at the "best nominee" game and need to shift strategies right away. I thought I was a special case because I was so in-their-face about santorum being a puppet for the libs, but if they are successfully having anyone saying political negatives about Vesty thrown off, then we're truly done-for; it means they control Facebook completely. That means we have noting BUT Places like this, because just being timid and sqeeking out nice Newt things on FB for fear of being thrown off will not win this - and they know it. So what did you say, and do you know if anyone is being 'allowed" to voice any negatives about santorum the way they do Newt?

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  61. Proe, Deb is coming too. I just talked to her and she will check in in the morning.

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  62. I 'accidently' invited 2 TN ppl to be 'my friend' and they were 'evidently' RS supporters, one of them didn't like me friending them (guess they saw my wall:) but I don't know which one it was, that's all. A little harsh for friending someone once though.

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    1. Yeah, I think it's technically supposed to be against the rules to friend someone you do not know in physical life, a rule obviously ignored by the millions each day unless someone complains.

      This surprises me not at all. Like with the Paulbots, only moreso, the santorum people are to a great extent leftists 'protecting" Obama. Let's face it, when Cain and Perry dropped out and endorsed Newt, most of those people did not run to santorum - they went to Newt. We are seeing santorum win by about the percentage points to which democrats have involved themselves in the process. And they do things like get people kicked off for not following their ideological viewpoint: conservatives don't do that - conservatives try to convert people; it's in our blood as devout Christians. Leftists try to destroy anbd eliminate the enemy, because that is how people think when they have no God to measure themselves. We convert, they destroy. It's basic and it's clear.

      I am furious at guys like Hannity for dropping the ball again, like he did with the "birther" issue, which has never been more solvent, by ignoring how the left is manipulating santorum's numbers Hannity treats Santorum like a legit candidate about whose wins there is no controversy. Hannity has become such a flaky little coward - only talking tough when it's easy and safe to do so - it makes my blood boil.

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  63. Happy St. Patrick's Day Everyone! :)

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  64. Proe, A.F. and S.N. coming onboard later today

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  65. Proe, I have one more to add for now *K.T.* and my initial team will be done for the moment so I hope we will be able to get started soon. It is becoming apparent that some people can still be thrown about what to believe in a flash. ;) People don't know what to believe out there anymore so we have to get beyond the establishments 'smoke and mirrors' and get people solidly onboard sooner than later.

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    1. Karna, what is the list now, how many have confirmed themselves on FB on the Newt wall, and can they please subscribe to this blog so we know for sure how many are on-board? the sooner this becomes an active little community where everyone makes it clear they are true participants, the faster we can really get started in earnest.

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  66. Next Sunday will be good for me. I have to work nights tomorrow. I have You Tube account set up. Jay Brown/VA

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  67. Thanks, Jay. Good deal.

    I'd ask everyone to read the newest post on this blog and even copy/paste it to Facebook. We need to start doing things differently, better and fast. We're losing this but we can still win.

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  69. I am in Proe! What should I do next? Suz N.

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  71. Proe, I have 12 counting you and I and all but 1 or 2 of those will be in the start up group. Anny and Kimberly will log in in the a.m. and you have Saska and Deb also I think (so is that 14?) No word back for sure from Stephen yet, but I just talked to him on Friday.

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  72. Proe, everyone to my knowledge that I brought in has signed into the blog with the exceptions of Anny and Kimberly T and they will tomorrow. How many are you showing signed in so far?

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  73. Hi Joan, welcome :) Proe will post the next step instructions for you. Proe, when you post that for Joan would it be ok for me to use the same instructions for the other two or three new members also?

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  74. Hiya, Suz. "Joan of Arc"?! I hope that doesn't prove to be prophetic! On July 4th, stay away from the gas grills!

    Suz, if you could go to Newt's wall and on one of his own vermont-centric post threads - topics which have almost no activity - and post "I think NEWT is the one to beat in 2012!" I'll know it's you, for sure. Having been banned from Facebook and all my work - that which was not saved - lost for nothing more than being a voice in opposition to the radical left (granted, i got in their faces about it, but they got in mine and they are still there - which makes me wonder how many of you cite complaints against them for the slightest infraction - time people did), I have to be extra careful. I have already had to throw one troll off this site, and from the hit numbers, I suspect many more may be watching. Not that I am in any way important, it's just that soros and ACORN pays these guys by the truckload, so you better know at least one or two drop in regularly to further make their sleazy masters happy - so I need to be careful when the time comes to open the private board once we get started in earnest.

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    1. These shenanigans must be with the help of FB. I missed your posts but never heard what happened. I posted on Vermont With NEWT.

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    2. Joan/Suz, i agree, it may be with the help of FB. but you never know - they may just be playing FB the right way. I very, very strongly suggest reporting any santorbot or paulbot for even the slightest FB infraction imaginable - it's worth a try. To whatever degree we can thin their numbers out on FB and lessen their influence, the better.

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  75. Kara,

    IMO, YOU are the poster child for the way people need to act to get things done. If half the conservatives online who pat themselves on the back for being activists - when all they do is pontificate to each other - acted, instead, as you do, Obama would never have been elected in a million years.

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  76. Proe, I will help Joan from here. Please watch for the other two here today also so we can get them confirmed, that should be a good start then.

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  77. Proe, I hope one part is prophetic: Joan led Charles VII to his coronation at Rheims.

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    1. I thought about that but she paid a price. But let's hope we are successful. I am convinced - completely - that this nation is in serious trouble if anyone but Newt gets the nomination. to begin with, I don't think anyone else is competent enough to beat obama and the media. One of the reason i am sure that Newt gets it is that the others make promises like it will be waving a magic want and Newt says the degree of change is going to be hard work. It's a bad advertising message but the reality is that Newt is right, and I really feel convinced that the others don;t understand the degree to which it will be hard work. My own sense is that they are running for the honor and prestige, and only Newt is running because he wants to do the hard work. That means we literally only have one good candidate: Newt.

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  78. I am in!!!! :) What do you I do next my patriot friend? I missed you!! .. Anny F. :)

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  79. We have to keep on praying, besides, getting ready physically & politically, we have to keep praying my friends!! We have to bc there is a GREAT chance that He is not done yet with America and HE could come through at the last minute so that we know it is Him with us as Mighty Warrior!! So many of us, even prayer warriors, feel it is NEWT destined and made ready for this time. We are fighting not just the left, right, liberals, & establishment.. it is a fight & battle in the spiritual realm against principalities & rulers of darkness, demonic forces that want to control America and destroy it.. let us fast & pray.. ♥

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  80. Proe: "..anny flores would be good at this, too - she strikes me as real nose-to-the-grindstone fighter, if she's game.."
    I SURE AM!!! :) lol!!

    btw, I already have a YouTube acct. Let me know if you need to know my acct name which is not name(s)..

    ALSO, I changed my blogger acct profile pix to an ancient drawing of Gustave Dore's interpretation of the prophetess Deborah. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Deborah.jpg/200px-Deborah.jpg
    although, it has yet to show on this blog..

    AND, PROE, from above @11:30am post.. What do you need me to do next my patriot friend?

    -Anny F. <3

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  81. Ok.. I'm checking in now with mobile app.. I'm making my phone ready to battle, LOL!! :)

    Karna (Kathy)/Proe, I'm avail on Sat all day &/or on Sun between 3-5pm and then after 9pm eastern.. let me know.. I can be reached easily by cell/text, if necessary. Karna has my cell & home num.

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  82. Anny, I didn't know that was you! LOL. Terrific. Just post something in all caps like THIS IS ANNY AND I LOVE NEWT on newt's wall so i know this is you.

    BTW, the Dore illustrations of a divine comedy are really amazingly inspirational, let alone his very superb works for the Bible which is really the yardstick by which Bible illustrations should be measured, the very colorful Michelangelo not counted, of course. Thank you for mentioning Dore.

    Let's shoot for next Sunday to start off. What times are good because if we all aren't going at the same time, it will just be madness, trust me.

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    1. YES it is ME my patriot friend!! You have been missed greatly!! I personally have missed you!! ;)
      I am glad you liked the profile pix I chose.. it goes well with your own theme as we embark in this journey with you as the leader. btw, I already posted I messaged Karna (Kathy) about it.. ;)

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  83. Hey, Proe!!! Long time. Sure have missed you, my friend. Thanks to some people who care about you and Newt I have been given the privilege now to be apart of your Blog. Would sure love to hear from you. I truly hope all is well and I can see you are still fighting the good Fight and working hard to get Newt elected. BTW....shhhh don't tell anyone, but it this is Kimberly (Kim)Kelly Trimble giving a shout out to you.

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    1. HI Kim KT my patriot frien.. welcome.. we are ready to fight!! :) lol! -Anny Flores

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  84. Hi Kim, It was nice to 'meet' you and welcome:)

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  85. Thanks so much, Karna. Thrilled and honored to be here.

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  86. Kim, go to Newts wall undr the very first thread comments and post: "I AM FOR NEWT, THE DEBATOR KING 100% thanks

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  87. Proe, I verified Kim for you.

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  88. Proe, Suz posted to Newts wall, verified by me if that's ok...or you can double check :)

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  89. Hi, Slyfox! It's my honor to have you here! Thanks for joining up and pitching in!

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  90. Karna, I'll double check but I'm sure it's her.

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  91. I now know here very well Proe so I am sure also :)

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  92. Good Morning All!! Checking in to see what the latest news is and that all is well.

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  93. Proe, Deborah Hope is good to go too, she passed with flying colors and did an EXCELLENT job! Welcome Deborah Hope!

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  94. Proe, I can be available Sunday night. I will leave my contact info with Karna.

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  95. YES it is ME my patriot friend!! You have been missed greatly!! I personally have missed you!! ;)
    I am glad you liked the profile pix I chose.. it goes well with your own theme as we embark in this journey with you as the leader.

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    1. Gee, DH, you're making me blush. Thank you. I'm only leading because IMO someone who knows the media stuff professionally has to fill a vacuum in this battle along grassroots media-opposition lines. trust me, if someone else wants to lead the charge, I'll follow. In the meantime, when we need to cross the Delaware in a snowstorm, I'll give my boots to someone else. No prima donna leaders allowed on this board, and thank you again.

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  96. while organizing is great, political assets are quicksilver. unless we use them immediately they are a liability. our goal should be to accept the possibility that Newt is not going to be the Nominee, use our organization to support a network of candidates for nationwide local and state offices. the way to stop the march into the progressive boondoggle is to get into office and foul the $$ distribution chain. the thing to remember is that $$ equals momentum. if you can disrupt the $$ flow you have stopped their organization. this is the path we must follow and it must be a long term commitment. sorry it aint sexy but its the truth.

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    1. Stephen, I suppose I mostly agree with your post academically about Newt, but am less concerned about the local races. The reason is because of something i know well: the media. There is a reason why we did well in 2010 and it isn;t simply because some magical synchronicity makes the opposing party take power in the mid-term; that analysis is simply wrong: until Newt came along the House had not seen GOP control in a lifetime, a glaring historical fact that the talking heads sometimes miss. The fact is that the media does not have enough control to ruin every local candidate. the local candidate is where the local voices outweigh the local media voices. The media works as a giant machine, and that machine fails when there are a million moving targets. A presidential candidate - singular - is very much a sitting duck or a king awaiting coronation depending on the collective opinion of the media. Therefore the local races do not much concern me. obama has been an abject failure and we'll do fine in congress because he taints the party. But the presidential nomination is noit really about party - it's about personality as defined by the media.

      Newt may well lose. But A. we don;t give up because the convention is a long time away and B. As in the latest blog post, I think we need to really push Arpaio's criminal investigation verdict and make the following seem certain, because it may very well be: Arpaio does not stop his investigation now, in many ways he starts it. He has identified through his investigators - law enforcement and lawyers all - a criminal forgery. "Probable cause" does not mean 'maybe". "Probable cause" means law enforcement looks for the perpetrators and when found they arrest them. that is where Arpaio is on this, literally. I don;t think most people realize this. Arpaio also has a plan: they have apparently identified the computer that uploaerd the document and they are going after that person first and work backward from there until they find and arrest the forger. Remember, "Sheriff Joe" is not some backwater hokum sheriff in some hayseed community as the moniker suggests; the guy has 30 years of federal law enforcement experience. Being sheriff is kind of like his retirement hobby. he claims they have DOZENS of experts and witnesses with sworn affidavits. this went on for 6 months and ammassed 2,200 manhours. Considering that corsi, et al, did so much work already, one assumes the majority of that time was spent crossing every T and dotting every I so they don't make the mistake Ayres investigators did which allowed him to walk on a technicality. if we need to split our time between newt and something else, then lets not just mimic what everyone else is doing - let's get the word out that Fraud has been proven and Arpaio is out to arrest Obama's forger. That, i think, gets stronger attention when said like that. Arpaio is a hard-nosed law enforcement guy with the experience to do it right. If there is a chance that the dems might elect a loser for us by voting in GOP primaries, the least we can do is attempt to see to it that whoever the dems pick for us does not run against obama because however it shakes out, obama will not be running for President in November of this year.

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    2. I absolutely AGREE 100% with you Proe. NUF said!

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    3. yeah, im not about to let Mittens make over the GOP into Socialist light. the point is, if they win the macro contest, we'll take the fight micro, contest them at every step. i think there is something substantial brewing on the falsified documents issue, the fast and furious scandal is a tool to knock out the Holder support column from under Barry. God bless the faithful.

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  98. Stephen, this is strange, I had a long reply which has vanished. I disagree about needed to coordinate here for local elections. The local elections will take care of themselves beyond the influence of anything our little group could possibly do here, because the media is a huge machine, and when you have hundreds of small moving targets, like the congressional elections, the machine fails; the machine is only effective at overwhelming the chances of a few large targets. A single target is when the machine succeeds. We need to focus on the larger political media targets to fight their influence. Like in 2010, the congressional elections will take care of themselves, more or less, as far as anything worth discussing here is concerned. IMO, what this group should focus on is A. newt, B. Exposing Santorum as a clearly unelectable puppet being used by the left so Obama will win (they're right), and making our own move to try to raise awareness that Obama's forger is now being tracked by Arpaio function, in practical essence if not literal fact, a federal law enforcement official, a role he well knows, so that forger can be arrested and hopefully turn state's evidence about who it was who ordered the forgery. Those are things that need to be addressed in stronger terms. IMO that is the vacuum we need to strategically help to fill from this board.

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  99. Glad to see you decided to join us Stephen, I bet you will bring alot of experience to the group. :)

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  100. Kathryn Newt and Proe Graphique are one and the same.

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  101. Proe, I am here to work FOR Newt until the bitter end. If people are SO willing to accept defeat and infer that Newt will NOT be the nominee, I am not sure I wish to be apart of a group who does not support him 100%. I will give all my time and energy to him, but I am NOT interested at this point to put any efforts towards other officials elections. Frankly, I am a little pissed right now at what I have just read.

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  102. Proe, it's Mark Z, friends with Karna, I'm in and would like to know what to do next.

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  103. Proe, if you still want me to help with this, I still can't get to the 'load more' link, it is not working for me so I can't see beyond Stephens first paragraph. Would it be ok to pick a different thread for new people?

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  104. Hey, all. Wondering if this is the thread we will be meeting on tomorrow night. Let me know...

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  105. http://fathersymeon.blogspot.com/2012/03/meaning-of-louisiana-vote.html

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